Comments (4) The Cross is the answer! He was saying to deny our will and the phrase, “taking up his cross” specifically means that denying our own will may involve suffering. Strike three. $\begingroup$ Cross expects lists as argument. The omission of this clear and declarative statement of Christ’s deity was a serious omission. Rick Warren is the poster boy for the gospel of compromise, exchanging the Gospel for a gospel that does not save. Whether this is intentional or incidental, the result is the same. In fact, that’s at least one of the reasons that the Lord gave me this great Revelation of the Cross in 1997.”, “The tragedy is almost all Christians think they know all about the Cross. The official doctrine of the Southern Baptist denomination on the atonement is orthodox. I pray he humbles himself and finds mercy. When they heard these things they fell silent. Even worse, the pending death of his servant painfully reminded him that, like his slave, he would someday be on his death bed too. than what then local churches do in terms of “good works”. An action is not a person. for our requests, we are also to do the same with our thanks and praise (John15:16). This Soldier, an agent of that hated, pagan and idolatrous Roman empire, personally bankrolled and built the synagogue in Capernaum. My question: How is it possible for you to accurately assess Swaggart’s false doctrine and then miss Warren’s watered-down doctrine that strips the “work of the cross” from the gospel? | this morning on his show the message of the cross he stated the qualifications of an apostle and the duties of an apostle and the calling of an apostle and then he began to talk about himself and his message just like an apostle would be and he practically claim that he is an apostle with a message from God for the church. upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, I’m just a man and just as susceptible to all the temptations and pitfalls that anyone is subject to and believe me I’ve had bitterness over what I felt at times were injustices, why me, but looking back, as the saying goes, and now that I’m closer to the end than the beginning I can’t help but see that God was so very merciful. Between broad and narrow, between left and right, Between things he could see, and things still out of sight. Paul introduces the yet we esteemed him stricken, As a point of fact, the phrase “faith in Christ” appears seven times in the Bible, “Faith in Jesus,” four times, “faith in His Name,” one time, “name of Jesus” twelve times. He is co-equal with the Father. Not one single time. Furthermore, those who are influenced by his false doctrines are deserving of hearing a biblical exposition of his teachings. But is this what the Bible teaches? Comments (1). It is found here at the Jimmy Swaggart Ministries (JSM) website: http://www.jsm.org/message-cross.html, His essay on the cross does not begin with scripture but begins with his own sin and pain. Forgive me in advance for my rambling dissertation. This fine article was written by Pastor Brian Wolfmueller of Hope Lutheran Church in Aurora, Colorado. In this instance, the icon is on an email message I sent and received several months ago--I think it was last June. Pastor Mark, Hi Shelley, I really appreciate your thoughtful and articulate comment. The conclusion can be drawn that Swaggart’s teaching undermines and attacks the integrity and sufficiency of Holy Scripture, the very foundation of Christianity. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is … The evangelist has also revealed for us some important information about this slave's master. It begs the question: How do you pray night and day when you are chasing prostitutes? Family problems, affairs and divorce abound at his church. Rick Warren has the same attitude that the Apostle Paul did, in that he also becomes all things to all people as he works in coordination with people of the world. I was so hungry for Gods will and so desirous for authenticity and I have found that when ones spirit is so tender you can be easily manipulated. Even today, the “new atheist” and the elite And I was heartbroken and still am of some of the stories he would relate to me on things he witnessed that would even make a non Christian company blush. Jehovah Witnesses have their publishing house, which they hold to be an inerrant prophet. Sin certainly does separate from God. a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; No good! So much of it is innuendo. is ashamed of the Gospel because he knows the power of the Gospel first hand. However, the issue with Warren’s book is not about what he says…it is about what it does not say. Their rejection of you as “a devil” is very typical of Swaggart methodology. God did owe him one and God was paying up. For in Him you have been made complete, and he is the Head…” (Colossians 2:8-10). The big red X of the cross mark emoji generally communicates warnings, errors, and undesirability. I am so concerned since I have found out more about the strange things in their bible. He needs to be demoted to a prophet from God, like Mohamed. http://selbourneparkchurch.com/about/ The opening sentence begins, “Public humiliation, especially on a worldwide basis is trauma that many people never get over. With someone like Swaggart, it is easy to show the false teaching because his doctrines are in print. 4. My dad being an Assembly of God minister was always dismissive about what happened to JSM because I truly think it threatened his 60 year plus ministry somehow like in someway discounted his ministry in the A/G and that I guess he couldn’t except what Jimmy Swaggart became so he just was oblivious to it never really reckoning any of it. My prayer is for all that go astray. Jesus was coming to his home. The plan had worked. The Gospel is “foolishness” [1 Corinthians 1:23,25] to those who do not believe. I believe that will enlighten you further as to the real purpose on this site, which is not to be critical or judgmental, but rather to encourage Christians to exercise judicial judgment and discernment so as not be blown about by every wind of doctrine. Chris Rosebrough (@PirateChristian) on April 30, 2009 in Message of the Cross | Permalink For this reason I must reiterate that any assessment of Rick Warren’s ministry should be based upon what he actually says or writes. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. They believe that because the writers of the Bible lived in an unenlightened era, … No, his trust, the object of his faith, is not in his dog’s action. Anything to deemphasize Jesus. To deny this fact flies in the face of the innumerable passages of scripture which adjure us to use our willpower. Will you please take the time to watch the video and read the articles attached, thank you again for the time and effort in exposing the errors with the Swaggarts “Message of the Cross” , I kept thinking to myself when I was watching his program that I thought I had already understood the cross since my salvation 27 years ago and I would try and understand what he was talking about and I would actually find myself trying to picture the cross in my mind so I could “keep the object of faith the cross” ……how ridiculous! No. Jimmy Swaggart teaches that he has a revelation greater than the Apostle Paul’s. Lately the church my dad attends in another town (A of. “A man knocking on the door of a brothel is knocking for God”…..Bruce Marshall. Jim. IF a person attends a church that doesn't properly teach God's Law AND Gospel but rather makes its evangelistic appeals by never discussing sin but instead says that Jesus will make a person's life more satisfying (infomercial gospel), THEN that person does not know that they are a sinner who will face God's judment and that Christ died for their sins and they need to repent and trust in Christ. I will not be surprised to find brother Swaggart in heaven. (Ephesians 1:16), Colossi Knowing this fact made his good works seem dirty and polluted. and I start to feel real uncomfortable and turn the tv off. but what they believe. I heard from friends in the church that the next week the pastor spoke from the pulpit during a service, “We had a devil in the band, but never fear, he is gone now!” A few people have left the church over that event, and I am still friends with and in constant contact with a few of them. Comments (9) Paul knows that many Gentiles ridicule the Hi Lynette, I don’t know anything about that church, except that they do mention “Message of the Cross” and if it is the same as Swaggart’s Message of the Cross then it is off-base. This was also another sin of rebellion and pride. The indictment is against the church, not Paul or the Bible. If you find anything substantial please let me know. She said because I don’t want to. They are not impervious to us. If there is no mention of sins, repentance and Christ Crucified for Sinners then the Biblical Gospel has not been preached (a false gospel has taken its place) and there are ZERO people truly being converted to the True Faith, regardless of how many thousands of people are filling the building. If I find something definitive about Rick Warren I have no problem posting an article about any doctrinal errors he may have. They teach salvation comes through their church and by being baptized in their water. “For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.” [Romans 8:7] The fleshly mind “does not” and “can not” submit to God's law. New American Standard Bible “In a world awash with the debris of broken homes, crushed spirits, and 3   For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures...", Chris Rosebrough (@PirateChristian) on September 06, 2007 in Message of the Cross | Permalink The Centurion quickly concocted a plan and a strategy for winning this battle against Death. Jimmy’s father, also a minister, when he was alive, said of his son, “He’s lost his mind.”. Here Swaggart confesses that he has “more light.” The question arises, more light than who? I am not surprised. Paul did not believe circumcision was necessary. But what does the Bible say about this? Let’s analyze that. window.__mirage2 = {petok:"ef12e549103fdf15e3cf0301fa3b5c02ea888f03-1608503367-1800"}; The meaning is clear. He then said who else would stand up and call me every name in the book. I am very grateful for your very well written and eye opening article on them. | Jimmy Swaggart castigates nearly all churches and ministries but his as being of the devil. BTW this will draw others to your website. Search the web for Church Team Ministries International. church does, we will look at both the good and bad things that a church Decision Theology: Can you make a decision for Christ? These “feel good” churches are teaching another gospel whereby its belief system favors simple narratives, places high value on good works, promotes self-esteem, and emphasizes the here and now. He had to act quickly! Paul’s Mission – Proclaiming the Gospel: Romans 1:8-17, I Am Not Worthy To Have You Come Under My Roof, The Point of the Gospel: Jesus Wants the Rose. I believe you are a Pastor who loves truth and loves the Lord and His word, that is clear from your article. I like their worship music. What was the big rush? He continued in it after his TV confession, then disobeyed the A/G and refused to accept counseling, then got caught with a prostitute again and told his church, “God told me its none of your business.” I think because he never dealt with his sin, it has caused his teaching on sin to become somewhat twisted. Praise be to God. You are imputed the righteousness of Christ. Note also that he says, “no one else at that time understood the Cross.” Now remember that Swaggart says, “The Gospel is the Cross.” In other words, according to Swaggart, the Apostle Paul did not understand the gospel. The Centurion’s eyes welled with tears as the sorrow for his sins washed over him. (See article on this site, The Swaggart Bible, for an in-depth analysis of Swaggart’s hate for the Church.) What did Jesus say to think about during communion? | Yes, more light than Paul, but also more light than any of the apostles, more light than any theologian in church history, more light than what the Bible gives, more light than any other Christian has ever had, more light than the church has ever known. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. You should see some of the venom they send my way on this site! The meaning of Christmas is said to be the spirit of giving. I somehow knew even through my naïveté that something wasn’t quite right with this all consuming statement THAT ONLY GOD COULD HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE. It is wonderful the dog ran quickly. This among other things has sadly done irreparable damaged to our relationship. After wallowing in sin for decades, Swaggart decides that most everyone else is floundering in sin as well. He claims that the Apostle Paul’s understanding of basic Christian doctrine regarding the cross was limited. Furthermore, Swaggart’s Bible has Swaggart’s words in the context of scripture with his words in red and the Swaggart’s quote from his commentary as though it were scripture. | It bears repeating: “You have everything when you have Christ.” (Col 2:10 LB). The Message of the Cross points people to a PERSON-- The Resurrected Christ!. Again, St. Paul, “But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” [1 Corinthians 2:14] The things of the Spirit of God, this certainly includes the truth of Jesus and His cross and death for us, all these things are unknown and unknowable to the natural man, the mind of flesh. an audio by Joyce Meyer.) As the disease ran its course, this slave's productivity slowed and finally stopped. There's a lot more as well. Cancelled! To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. While ministering at the Swaggart Family Worship Center, he divorced his wife, married a 5-time divorcée in the church, then divorced her and remarried his first wife. His message detracts from our Lord Jesus Christ, urging faith in the cross instead of faith in Christ. One common complaint from many who read The Message or hear it … Again, Paul will farther explain what he And they glorified God, saying, "Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life." Cross, the message should lead to a PERSON-- THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. To wit –. The cross is the heart of the gospel. But wait...something about the Centurion’s plan wasn’t right. Lions, tigers, bears (or snakes, I'm not a fan of snakes)? As it is written, “See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception…rather than according to Christ. This is easily done in Swaggart’s case. The only solution for sin, the only answer to sin, is the Cross of Christ! Whoever has the same faith as this Roman Centurion, even though he dies, yet shall he live. Thus was born his “New Revelation from God.” Swaggart says he received his revelation in 1997 after six years of praying for it night and day with tears. His message is nothing more than a last ditch effort to promote his own brand of religion and maintain his self-image as a great man of God while simultaneously excusing his past immoralities. What is the most dangerous thing in the world? In the Roman cultural context, "carrying the cross" was tacit admission that the criminal was wrong and that the death sentence was just. What was written on the sign nailed to the cross above Jesus’ head? The Lord Jesus Christ. Pain and trouble in our lives are used by God to purify us. Only then, when Christ is first, does the cross have meaning and power. Repetition and group-think impresses the message over and over: “The Cross must be the object of your faith! They have been supposed to describe a quality or characteristic belonging to Christ or the Gospel; and, so construed, they have sometimes been made the watchword of narrowness and of intellectual indolence. They elevate faith above Christ and end up with followers that love money and things more than Christ. The light bills still get paid, the toll free phones are still manned and "Campmeeting" goes on. ! Those who are rich, powerful and famous are especially in need of that. live by faith. Sanctification is the religious word used to describe how Christians are set apart unto God and grow spiritually such that sin has less of a hold, and increasingly a believer becomes more Christ-like. We have already mentioned this but it bears pointing out that Swaggart’s Message of the Cross included as a main tenet that the church is lost in error. Dear Pastor Mark My husband and I pastor. When we take communion we remember Christ’s sacrifice for us. Who should he trust in the future? God has not committed to us a message about political power or military might. As a result he releases her and turns himself into the police. The Assemblies of God mercifully granted that he could maintain his ministerial ordination with them if he would stop ministering for one year and receive counseling from A/G ministers. The same Greek stands for “minds” as for “thoughts” (2Co 10:5, also see on [2320]2Co 10:5); intents of the will, or mind. It is always enlightening to hear first-hand accounts of what has transpired and how it affected you. Jeremiah was lamenting that he was the only one still serving God but God let him know that there were still sincere and faithful servants. There was and is rampant sin and false teaching that is written down. The message to a SECULAR TV AUDIENCE (BET NETWORK ) must lead the And good Dr. Luke tells us that Jesus Christ marveled at what He heard. If someone tells you that God gave this message to me for you, well it first of all has to agree with God’s word. Whoever abides in Me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.” [John 15:5] This is a verse of marvelous comfort, for here we have Jesus' promise that, abiding in Him, we will bear much fruit. I looked at their website and it looks like they do lean that way. This is no longer available online but the same message as given by Copeland/Kenyon. hope she see s the truth. The text only tells us that this valued slave had become mortally ill. Its not hard to imagine the series of events that led up to this encounter with Jesus. Our faith is Jesus' work, and this is our great comfort. Communion is not a means of salvation. Death comes for slave and master alike and both are powerless in Death's grip. 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